Verses of the Wizard's Agony

Sir David's Viewpoint

2007-03-07T20:23:00.000-08:00

This one is a good viewpoint of one of the most respected player in whole RO community.
and this really make sense

I've been browsing through the boards these past few days and I have witnessed a plethora of troubles as well as their corresponding complaints regarding pRO, Thor in particular. I am saddened by these events and what they make me conclude. We are on a steady decline.

Whenever something crashes and burns, one of the very first questions asked is "Who was responsible?". It is during this query that the finger pointing starts. Not surprisingly, fingers are now pointed towards Level Up. They are rolling the server back, they are letting bots through, they, they they. Have we all stopped to consider our role in this fiasco we call pRO? Let me illustrate the situation to help us address this question.

First, we blame Gravity/Level Up for not implementing Ragdefender in Thor. Details of its implementation escape me BUT they did however prevent bots from entering the first months of Thor. They promised a bot free server and they delivered at least at first. What went wrong? WE, the players cut corners and created ways for bots to get in. Level Up didnt do that. WE DID. Now they are trying to stop the bots that are getting in. What do we do? We create account after account just to bot. Level Up didnt do that. WE DID.

Second. Awhile back we were all furious about that first rollback that happened due to the corrupt item database after the duplication spree. Level Up had no choice in that. We started duplicating items, thus corrupting the data integrity. WE DID THAT. In response to people who still keep duplicating, Gravity patched our game with a script that would take care of these items. This script is what is causing this second rollback. Now, we blame Gravity for the screw up. If WE didnt start duplicating, none of these would have happened.

Third. Lets take a look at the boards this time. Have you noticed how the boards these days are dirtier than they were before? A lot of oversized signatures, flaming, flame baiting, flooding, spamming and the occasional posting of porn as well as harrassment are found here! Before we start asking the moderators to "do their jobs" we should ask ourselves NOT to give them problems in the first place. We have users here that have never even read the RULES OF THE BOARDS. To them, here RULES let me help you.

In conclusion, I am not saying that Level Up is squeeky clean. I'm just saying that before we start asking them to clean their muck up, why dont we wipe ourselves first? We Pinoys keep blaming the ones in power for our suffering when we ourselves are generating new problems. These may sound cliche but let me end this with two statements that I humbly ask you to think over.

-Sir David, Paladin of Thor Server

2007-03-07T20:19:00.000-08:00

Thor is now up.. but the mayhem still goes..

Read this chat log

wauks: Good evening! Let's get started na
We all have other stuff to do
Anyway
Thanks to Salleh for organizing this
I'm Wauks, the Brand Manager for pRO ^^;

As you all know we've been having a lot of problems with Thor
For the past few months
This includes the series of bugs and the failure of the anti-bot system
For all of these, let me humbly apologize - it is your right to expect them, and we will continue to strive to deliver the fixes at the soonest possible time
For the Anti-Bot, we've went as far as sending a formal complaint to Gravity
It is their failure to deliver, because they were the ones who said that Thor would be bot free. I am not making excuses for Level-up though, it is our fault as well for not making sure that it was 100% full proof.
They are developing a system - which involves client/server/account authentication - something that hopefully will finally assure the security of thor from bots.
We know what you guys want - and we failed to deliver on several occasions, and for that we apologize.

Now for the bugs
This is the hardest part, Lol.
Gravity made another error recently when they did a script to remove illegal items from the DB.
This was last Wednesday I think, or just recently
The script inadvertently corrupted majority of the character files in Thor
However we were able to notice it quickly - and we were able to stop the scan from hitting the entire RO population
And we were able to limit the damage
from the whole character
to just the Item Database
We've met with Gravity for several hours for the past few days trying to find a solution
And it boils down to this
We will have an item rollback (no character level or EXP)
the rollback will probably be 3-4 weeks long - because the data was corrupted that bad
Of course - it would be suicide to do this without giving all of you compensation
I don't have the complete compensation package yet
but we're looking at bonus exp and drop rates
exclusive to thor
for 2 weeks - 1 month
we will also be giving players free game time
as well as free rok points so you can shop in the hypermart @_@
wauks: we're still finalizing if its free game time or free thor (parang dati)
the final compensation package will be posted tomrorow
limited F2P (2 weeks siguro)

wauks: im not saying that you guys should jump for joy
wauks: in fact im sorry that this happened
wauks: >.>
wauks: after all that you guys have been through
wauks: i can't blame you if you decide to stop playing

ron canlas: sir just clarify d things dat wud fall about d f2p thing kung mahaba ang lod ng isang char|
Anton Dans has left the conference.

wauks: i can't answer all of your questions
ron canlas: sir just clarify d things dat wud fall about d f2p thing kung mahaba ang lod ng isang char|?

wauks: all i can say is that the rollback will happen - and we will announce the compensation tomorrow morning

wauks: and lastly - sasakalin ko yung gravity people pag punta ko korea
wauks: ;;;;;;;;;;
wauks: yeah pero im not making excuses
wauks: kasalanan din namin
wauks: kasi dapat fullproof before na-launch thor
wauks: so its still the fault of level-up as well
wauks: we're owning up to the problem - and we'll do our best to fix it

wauks: Maraming salamat and I hope you guys accept our apologies.

Question and Answer
Quote:

Q: purezza: DB? dead branch
A: Reley: database

Q: klark_amistr: what dyou mean the whole Character?? ibig sabihin pede pang magworsen ung situation..
A: shaolei: i think thats what he was trying to say., but they were able to prevent that
A: wauks: ganito - if we didn't stop the corruption thing
A: wauks: it would have eaten all the way back to december
A: wauks: and it would have eaten the entire RO community (not just thor)

Q: purezza: kelan nmn
Q: ron canlas: starting wen at ano included?
Q: bianca_ganda_03: 3-4weeks from last tuesday?
A: wauks: Yes, the rollback will probably be 3-4 weeks long - because the data was corrupted that bad

Q: klark_amistr: kasama zenny dyan??
Q: gantoris3: tanogn kasama ba sa item ang zeny?
Q: bianca_ganda_03: Ouch. Pano nman ung mga RARES na pinaghirapan?..
Q: purezza: pano nlng ung nkuha ko sa TB huhuhuhhu
A: wauks: yup, kasama zenny.

Q: gantoris3: pano yung mga nag load ng 500?
Q: ron canlas: so yung free game time add sya sa 2 months lod?
Q: bianca_ganda_03: u said "malamang" so.. ndi ka rin sure sa about sa load issue?..
A: wauks: malamang patong dun sa 500 mo gantoris
A: wauks: i can't say for certain atom - i still have to consult with the cto, pero game time will be something in the package

Q: klark_amistr: uhmm pnu ung mga prizes na nilagay... pde b makuha ulet un. ung POGS, chinese crowns
A: wauks: we will just re-insert that. i think the list is still with the GM team naman

Q: rhusty alipio: pano ung agit points ng tao gunka series
A: wauks: we can resume the tao gunkga siege series afterwards

Q: Anton Dans: i'm concerned that with modified rates, botters will be trying ever harder to take advantage
Q: Anton Dans: do we have additional protection form a possible bot infestation?
Q: klark_amistr: sana pag implemented na ung compensation... heightened alert sana mga Vanguards.. sa s mga botters
Q: Anton Dans: Wauks, whatever compensation you guys have planned, please put more Vanguards on alert
Q: shaolei: kuya waukeen, do you guys have any plans of extending the bot watch that Winter Tsuki is currently doing? because there are some who begin to bot when they know Winter Tsuki has gone offline
A: wauks: actually, one of the botters had a good suggestion lol. we'll fight fire with fire wakokoko - hopefully it works
A: its more like a chat bot that you can report hindi in-game. we're trying to develop it sa website

Q: kuya wauks ilang Mod EXP kami tom?
Q: klark_amistr: AFAIK.. we have an 1.5 permanent exp.. so iba pa ung modified exp na ibibgay for compensation..
A: wauks: most likely 3x

Q: bianca_ganda_03: you mean wala kau back uP files?..
Q: ericnchow: so the curroption thingy ate the whole feb?
Q: bianca_ganda_03: ouch, pati back up tinamaan ng malas?
A: wauks: it ate up the back-up

Q: ericnchow: ano mga compensations?
A: wauks: free game time will come with the comp package
A: wauks: the final compensation package will be posted tomrorow

Q: gantoris3: we know na you did your best, ang nagpapagalit lang sa amin is we were kept in the dark
A: wauks: we were investigating kasi if we could still reverse it
A: wauks: and not resort to the rollback

Q: gantoris3: wauks i patch nyo nalng ang hugel
A: wauks: hugel on 14

Q: MykeL Borja: hmm... what about rok points?
Q: purezza: inde ko p pla nauubos FM ko sa kafra pano nlng un
Q: purezza: woah pano ung alice doll ko
Q: Gary Jay Maramag: aw, affected b field manuals?
Q: John Tetsuo: affected din po ba yung database ng hypermart?
Q: purezza: meron pa ako rok points pano un wala n din?
A: wauks: for the rok points we will roll back - tapos if there are special cases for example, kulang RP nyo or something, you can file a ticket and we will have the GM team investigate
A: wauks: we can double check the logs naman

Q: ericnchow: @wauks wat tym OL yung server bukas?
A: wauks: i'd love to say noon pero I can't promise matagal na process yung pag rollback

Q: klark_amistr: ahm sure ba na ok na lahat ng accounts tomorrow???
A: wauks: yup tomorrow up na
A: wauks: it will go up tomorrow - pero not sure what time

Q: heart_yakamo: will there be a 50% DC on field manuals? kasi some of us stocked some nung 50% off pa siya at kung marorollback un.. sayang.
A: wauks: sure @ heart we can do that

Q: klark_amistr: so meaning nde na test sa sakray..
A: wauks: it was tested

So there was it.. naayos na nga pero.. the zeny rollback did not pursue.. paano na ang mga Thoreans??

Thor: pROs Ghost Server

2007-03-03T02:56:00.000-08:00

Its really hard to post this..

This is Thor... the Ghost server..

first

the airship bug...
then the Duplication issues

and now the disconnection bugs..

i dunno if players will still be able to trust the game... /sigh

Thor: Facing the Raid of Bugs

2007-03-02T03:34:00.000-08:00

Thor, I really consider it as my virtual home; the baby server of Philippine Ragnarok Online is now having too much problems; if only we knew how to solve it.

Everybody in the Ragnaboards Section is now babbling about it..

Its really hard to see your home getting attacked by the unknown bugs.. too hurting...

Look at these links

Thor Issues
Thor Issues
Thor Issues

I hope, recovery and healing will soon come.. I summon you Vanguards.. Help us!

The Beginning of a New Realm; Verdandi's Verses

2007-03-01T03:00:00.000-08:00

Rune Midgard, I have known that world for a very long time. Ever since i started to make it out last 2003, i have been addicted to it. And it's very hard to escape from this addiction... from this virtual make believe world..

So starting from this very mark of future adventure.. Verdandi will be making chants to the blogging community..